“Immaterial” - Artist Interview with Jacob Tillman
Jacob Tillman, “Studio Painting with Sculptural Element (Water)” (2010). Oil on canvas, 60 x 60 inches.
What was your inspiration for this work, in regards to including a textile/basing it on a textile or fabric, or otherwise interpreting the form?
There are many ideas of time or spans of time compressed into objects. In the example of a painting: there is the history of painting stretching back to a beginning surely long before the earliest cave paintings we’ve ever found, and an amount of time the painting took to be made, there is the artist’s life and experiences that led he or she to paint, as well as the subject or narrative content of the image along with the path it took into the consciousness of the artist who studied or invoked it. We have the painter’s process and the time spent looking and working that led he or she to that process. The painter may or may not even be aware of the history of making paint, and brushes, the origin of painting on canvas, the tradition of making paper, the age of trees used in making the paper, the minerals suspended in the binders, and their origins stretching back to the origin of the universe. Finally there is the ability of the object to extend an artist’s point of view and memory into a remote future to be looked upon by a remote viewer with their own history and relationship to time. This sense of the dimension of time can be applied to any object, with some producing more poetic results than others. Textiles along with many traditions of craft are rich with time which is why I find them compelling to represent in my work.
What were some of your processes for creating this work?
I find it very rewarding as an artist to build layers of time and inquiry into my drawings and paintings until a transformation occurs. I bring the images and surfaces up gradually and in many layers so that by the time the image has formed it has also crossed over from the realm of being a picture to being an object. Together in the resulting work you have the image, be it abstract, a representation from observation or a combination of both, and the resulting surface quality (scars, corrections, impasto, gouges, etc.) working together to add poetic complexity to the paintings and drawings and give them a relationship to the everyday objects, surfaces, and relics I draw endless inspiration from by looking at them with the notion of time I invoked in my answer to the prior question. In addition to textiles I’m inspired by things like the softened features of low-rent apartments from being whitewashed instead of cleaned between one short term tenant and the next, every day objects and surfaces smoothed and polished by use, or marred by continued abuse, fossils, ruins, ceramics, woodgrains, and the impact that countless different painters processes have on the final surface of their paintings to name a few.

Jacob Tillman, Untitled (2012). Black, white gesso on paper, 13 x 19 inches.
What are your thoughts on the relationship between textile art (weavings, quilts, embroidery, etc.) and textiles represented in art (through photography, painting, etc.)? Do you consider painting to be a form of textile art?
I see this as an extraordinarily complex question, but one way of looking at the relationship between textile art and textiles represented in art is one of “Artists” invoking a debate about why certain mediums have been banished categorically into a lesser realm called “decorative arts.” If the “decorative arts” are so lacking in critical rigor why are they so rich in energy? Textiles play the role of muse to so many “Artists,” Matisse being a well loved example of this. There are surely some on one side of the debate that would gladly banish Matisse into the decorative realm with his muse and others who would go the opposite route and rub out the distinction between the “decorative” and “Art” all together. Both of these extremes are being dismissive of the opposite view rather than taking a good look at the artistic object or gesture at hand and having an experience with it that is unmediated by dogmatic social prescriptions. Perhaps it is a thing worth a moment of time.

Jacob Tillman, Untitled (2012). Black, white gesso on paper, 13 x 19 inches.
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Immaterial is on view at Wolfe Contemporary through July 26th.